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	<title>Comments on: Ouch, dissed by Wikipedia</title>
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	<description>Education and Technology by Steve Dembo</description>
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		<title>By: Andy Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2007/11/28/ouch-dissed-by-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-98031</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to create an entry once for the Andy&#039;s Elevator Postulate...which states that the person who gets on the elevator after you will get off the elevator before you.

I didn&#039;t want it to get deleted, so I just never created it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to create an entry once for the Andy&#8217;s Elevator Postulate&#8230;which states that the person who gets on the elevator after you will get off the elevator before you.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t want it to get deleted, so I just never created it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Robb</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2007/11/28/ouch-dissed-by-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-97223</link>
		<dc:creator>David Robb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the summer I tried, unsuccessfully, to add &quot;School 2.0&quot; to Wikipedia.  It lasted for a few weeks and had a few edits but the entry did not meet Wikipedia&#039;s guidelines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the summer I tried, unsuccessfully, to add &#8220;School 2.0&#8243; to Wikipedia.  It lasted for a few weeks and had a few edits but the entry did not meet Wikipedia&#8217;s guidelines.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2007/11/28/ouch-dissed-by-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-97205</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pam: Big impact or no, if Wikipedia is truly the egalitarian &quot;everyone&#039;s encyclopedia&quot; that it claims to be, then there should be no restrictions on the creation of anyone&#039;s personal page.

I repeatedly tried to get a local independent bookstore&#039;s page started this summer, and it was continually deleted due to the same reason as Steve&#039;s page was deleted. Of course, the large book retailers like B&amp;N and Borders have pages on Wikipedia. What makes them noteworthy? They sell more books; that&#039;s it. In a few decades time, they will be gone, and other large chains will ahve taken their place, or people will go back to independents. Either way, it&#039;s a bit unfair for the editors of WIkipedia to deem what is noteworthy now and what isn&#039;t as they can&#039;t look into the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam: Big impact or no, if Wikipedia is truly the egalitarian &#8220;everyone&#8217;s encyclopedia&#8221; that it claims to be, then there should be no restrictions on the creation of anyone&#8217;s personal page.</p>
<p>I repeatedly tried to get a local independent bookstore&#8217;s page started this summer, and it was continually deleted due to the same reason as Steve&#8217;s page was deleted. Of course, the large book retailers like B&amp;N and Borders have pages on Wikipedia. What makes them noteworthy? They sell more books; that&#8217;s it. In a few decades time, they will be gone, and other large chains will ahve taken their place, or people will go back to independents. Either way, it&#8217;s a bit unfair for the editors of WIkipedia to deem what is noteworthy now and what isn&#8217;t as they can&#8217;t look into the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2007/11/28/ouch-dissed-by-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-97105</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting.  I&#039;ll be adding this to my discussion notes for my students when we cover Wikipedia.

But I agree that the process does have a flaw, popular bloggers/speakers have a huge impact and should be recognized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting.  I&#8217;ll be adding this to my discussion notes for my students when we cover Wikipedia.</p>
<p>But I agree that the process does have a flaw, popular bloggers/speakers have a huge impact and should be recognized.</p>
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		<title>By: sylvia martinez</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2007/11/28/ouch-dissed-by-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-97071</link>
		<dc:creator>sylvia martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, look, I&#039;m quoted from Twitter in a blog comment - quick, someone put up a Wikipedia entry about ME!

But seriously, they are concerned about people using Wikipedia as a vanity site, so the rules about living people are pretty strict.

Any article has to have sources not written by the subject, so no blog, website or self-published book. I guess that might work in favor of academics, and against people who are just popular blogger/commentator/consultant types. Even though you might argue that their impact might be greater. But those are the rules!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, look, I&#8217;m quoted from Twitter in a blog comment &#8211; quick, someone put up a Wikipedia entry about ME!</p>
<p>But seriously, they are concerned about people using Wikipedia as a vanity site, so the rules about living people are pretty strict.</p>
<p>Any article has to have sources not written by the subject, so no blog, website or self-published book. I guess that might work in favor of academics, and against people who are just popular blogger/commentator/consultant types. Even though you might argue that their impact might be greater. But those are the rules!</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Draper</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2007/11/28/ouch-dissed-by-wikipedia/comment-page-1/#comment-97056</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Draper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Dembo,

Yes, adding a Wikipedia entry can be a fickle process.  According to Sylvia Martinez, &quot;You have to follow the rules to the letter, and follow up for months defending it.&quot;

The real question that we, as a community, have to answer is whether or not it&#039;s worthwhile to write biographies for significant leaders/contributors to our field.  Personally, I think it&#039;s a shame for some people in our field to be represented, while others - equally qualified - go unrepresented.

This page ( http://tinyurl.com/2ec5hj ) offers, at least, a nice start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dembo,</p>
<p>Yes, adding a Wikipedia entry can be a fickle process.  According to Sylvia Martinez, &#8220;You have to follow the rules to the letter, and follow up for months defending it.&#8221;</p>
<p>The real question that we, as a community, have to answer is whether or not it&#8217;s worthwhile to write biographies for significant leaders/contributors to our field.  Personally, I think it&#8217;s a shame for some people in our field to be represented, while others &#8211; equally qualified &#8211; go unrepresented.</p>
<p>This page ( <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2ec5hj" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2ec5hj</a> ) offers, at least, a nice start.</p>
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