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	<description>Education and Technology by Steve Dembo</description>
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		<title>By: Karen Seddon</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2006/12/15/reflecting/#comment-55357</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Seddon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 02:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time heals.  As a FM, I loved every minute and opportunity to interact with teachers across the nation.  I am grateful for Discovery's vehicle to give us that start.  There is no reason for the networking to ever end.  Can't wait to hear about that sweet little boy, Steve!

K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time heals.  As a FM, I loved every minute and opportunity to interact with teachers across the nation.  I am grateful for Discovery&#8217;s vehicle to give us that start.  There is no reason for the networking to ever end.  Can&#8217;t wait to hear about that sweet little boy, Steve!</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2006/12/15/reflecting/#comment-54923</link>
		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue" rel="nofollow"&gt; Revenue "&lt;/a&gt;
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May help shed some light. It gets a bit confusing. I'd be clueless if not for a couple of nice book keepers at my first job out of school, in software sells.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue" rel="nofollow"> Revenue &#8220;</a><br />
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May help shed some light. It gets a bit confusing. I&#8217;d be clueless if not for a couple of nice book keepers at my first job out of school, in software sells.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Debbie Bohanan</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2006/12/15/reflecting/#comment-54886</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie Bohanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clearing up the misconceptions that might have been floating around about the field managers.  I agree that we need to continue the great work of the DEN.  This is the most amazing group of educators I have ever met and I would hate to lose that connection.  Once we get our state blogs up and running again we will be able to reconnect with the people in our region and begin rebuilding the DEN.  Danielle and Karen poured their heart and soul into the network and we owe it to them to continue their vision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clearing up the misconceptions that might have been floating around about the field managers.  I agree that we need to continue the great work of the DEN.  This is the most amazing group of educators I have ever met and I would hate to lose that connection.  Once we get our state blogs up and running again we will be able to reconnect with the people in our region and begin rebuilding the DEN.  Danielle and Karen poured their heart and soul into the network and we owe it to them to continue their vision.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim W</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2006/12/15/reflecting/#comment-54885</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hated to see what happened to the FM for the DEN. The people that I know it those position were great people that cared about what they are doing. I thought the timing of letting people go was poor. However, I do agree with the comments that part of it is losing the community. I think it is up to all of us within the DEN to decide if what is there is worth supporting and being involved with in the future.

I think the answer is yes. Also, knowing the people in the DEN FM postitions I think they would be discouraged if what they created ended. The community and the work they did has value. Let's not kill it in spite.

My humble thoughts,

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hated to see what happened to the FM for the DEN. The people that I know it those position were great people that cared about what they are doing. I thought the timing of letting people go was poor. However, I do agree with the comments that part of it is losing the community. I think it is up to all of us within the DEN to decide if what is there is worth supporting and being involved with in the future.</p>
<p>I think the answer is yes. Also, knowing the people in the DEN FM postitions I think they would be discouraged if what they created ended. The community and the work they did has value. Let&#8217;s not kill it in spite.</p>
<p>My humble thoughts,</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2006/12/15/reflecting/#comment-54876</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so here's the thing... Personal contact is of course the preferred model of teaching, it's what we believe in for the students and we therefore believe in it for ourselves.  But just as much, money is an increasing pressure on education at large, not to mention the business forces at play at Discovery.  People are frustrated and rightfully so, but if you really believe the hype about the Read/Write web, you will use the momentum created by the DEN and promote, support and encourage the use of tech and new informational literacy to influence the teaching of those around you.  One only need to project forward to envision the vast remaining potential of DEN.  The greatest thing is that now, with Web 2.0, we get to decide what kind of impact this business decision has on our lives.  We get to be either the force of continuing change or the lack there of. We choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so here&#8217;s the thing&#8230; Personal contact is of course the preferred model of teaching, it&#8217;s what we believe in for the students and we therefore believe in it for ourselves.  But just as much, money is an increasing pressure on education at large, not to mention the business forces at play at Discovery.  People are frustrated and rightfully so, but if you really believe the hype about the Read/Write web, you will use the momentum created by the DEN and promote, support and encourage the use of tech and new informational literacy to influence the teaching of those around you.  One only need to project forward to envision the vast remaining potential of DEN.  The greatest thing is that now, with Web 2.0, we get to decide what kind of impact this business decision has on our lives.  We get to be either the force of continuing change or the lack there of. We choose.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2006/12/15/reflecting/#comment-54817</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 05:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Daniel's comment
I've already said my piece, so no need to elaborate.  But I do want to straighten out a couple misunderstandings.
1)"The FM’s were told during a meeting on a Thursday and were locked out of their email by the time they had walked back to their offices."  None of the field managers had offices.  They were told in the morning and had the rest of the day to straighten out their affairs. I know that isn't much better, but they did have the day to straighten things out. 
2) "The Field Managers were let go because (according to the Washington Post article) they were considered redundant or overlapping."  The redundant/overlapping comment actually referred to other positions in Discovery Education.  The DEN was not the only part of the division affected by the cuts.  
3) "There were many avenues they could have taken, especially considering that Discovery Education division’s revenue has jumped 350 percent since 2004."  To be honest, I didn't understand that myself.  April Hayes left a comment on the DEN blog that shed some light though.  "The 350% increase in revenue doesn't bother me, because it's revenue and not profit. They've nearly tripled the amount of content on the site over the last 3 years and have grown in number of subscriptions by probably more than that. So a 350% increase in revenue is the result of a good product. Revenue doesn't equal profit."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Daniel&#8217;s comment<br />
I&#8217;ve already said my piece, so no need to elaborate.  But I do want to straighten out a couple misunderstandings.<br />
1)&#8221;The FM’s were told during a meeting on a Thursday and were locked out of their email by the time they had walked back to their offices.&#8221;  None of the field managers had offices.  They were told in the morning and had the rest of the day to straighten out their affairs. I know that isn&#8217;t much better, but they did have the day to straighten things out.<br />
2) &#8220;The Field Managers were let go because (according to the Washington Post article) they were considered redundant or overlapping.&#8221;  The redundant/overlapping comment actually referred to other positions in Discovery Education.  The DEN was not the only part of the division affected by the cuts.<br />
3) &#8220;There were many avenues they could have taken, especially considering that Discovery Education division’s revenue has jumped 350 percent since 2004.&#8221;  To be honest, I didn&#8217;t understand that myself.  April Hayes left a comment on the DEN blog that shed some light though.  &#8220;The 350% increase in revenue doesn&#8217;t bother me, because it&#8217;s revenue and not profit. They&#8217;ve nearly tripled the amount of content on the site over the last 3 years and have grown in number of subscriptions by probably more than that. So a 350% increase in revenue is the result of a good product. Revenue doesn&#8217;t equal profit.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Rivera</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2006/12/15/reflecting/#comment-54811</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Rivera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 03:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should also clarify a few things, Ben.

Neither Jeff or I were Field Managers.  Those were paid, full-time employees of Discovery Education.  The Field Managers were let go because (according to the Washington Post article) they were considered redundant or overlapping.  They were let go on Thursday afternoon and were not allowed to come back Friday.  They are shopping for jobs as we shop for gifts.  

We were definitely not in it for the prestige, title, or money.  We actually gave up much of our personal time to work with the DEN and its members - we loved it too, and intend to keep in contact with all of those we met.

We intend to work closely with GPB's new Technology In Education network (TIE), which hopes to achieve similar goals as the DEN, but without the strings of the corporate machine.  

We were shocked about Discovery's decision because it had successfully convinced us that it was NOT your typical corporate presence.  Maybe if I use a folk tale as an example, it will help me explain the dismay many of us felt.

Discovery was a wolf (typical corporation) that convinced the flock (educators) that it really wanted to be a shepherd.   It lead us to some very green pastures, and for a while, we were smitten.  We even recruited more sheep, telling them all about this wonderful wolf that was really a shepherd.  Really!

Then it "wolfed out" and bit a couple of the sheep (the Field Managers) and yet it continues to say, "Follow me, I'm a shepherd! We have come so far, and there are more green fields over yonder!"  

Well, we still talk to that bitten friend, and many of us sheep are kinda scared that maybe this shepherd really IS just a wolf.  

Jeff and I are looking to another shepherd, Georgia Public Broadcasting, to lead us in a good direction - only this one was never a wolf.  With some heavy hearts, we leave the DEN flock - hoping they will be fine, but certain that we would rather not take our chances - no matter how green the grass might be.  Heck, maybe we might become shepherds of our own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should also clarify a few things, Ben.</p>
<p>Neither Jeff or I were Field Managers.  Those were paid, full-time employees of Discovery Education.  The Field Managers were let go because (according to the Washington Post article) they were considered redundant or overlapping.  They were let go on Thursday afternoon and were not allowed to come back Friday.  They are shopping for jobs as we shop for gifts.  </p>
<p>We were definitely not in it for the prestige, title, or money.  We actually gave up much of our personal time to work with the DEN and its members - we loved it too, and intend to keep in contact with all of those we met.</p>
<p>We intend to work closely with GPB&#8217;s new Technology In Education network (TIE), which hopes to achieve similar goals as the DEN, but without the strings of the corporate machine.  </p>
<p>We were shocked about Discovery&#8217;s decision because it had successfully convinced us that it was NOT your typical corporate presence.  Maybe if I use a folk tale as an example, it will help me explain the dismay many of us felt.</p>
<p>Discovery was a wolf (typical corporation) that convinced the flock (educators) that it really wanted to be a shepherd.   It lead us to some very green pastures, and for a while, we were smitten.  We even recruited more sheep, telling them all about this wonderful wolf that was really a shepherd.  Really!</p>
<p>Then it &#8220;wolfed out&#8221; and bit a couple of the sheep (the Field Managers) and yet it continues to say, &#8220;Follow me, I&#8217;m a shepherd! We have come so far, and there are more green fields over yonder!&#8221;  </p>
<p>Well, we still talk to that bitten friend, and many of us sheep are kinda scared that maybe this shepherd really IS just a wolf.  </p>
<p>Jeff and I are looking to another shepherd, Georgia Public Broadcasting, to lead us in a good direction - only this one was never a wolf.  With some heavy hearts, we leave the DEN flock - hoping they will be fine, but certain that we would rather not take our chances - no matter how green the grass might be.  Heck, maybe we might become shepherds of our own.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Rivera</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2006/12/15/reflecting/#comment-54808</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Rivera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 03:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Daniel, from SEGA Tech (Dan &#38; Jeff).  We are the authors of the Broken Bulb video and Discover This wiki.  I think maybe I should say a few things, maybe to clarify our stance on this.

First, I want to say that the DEN was the best organization I have ever belonged to.  It still is, probably.  I wish it well.  I hope that everyone in the DEN continues to carry out the idea that it was based on: networking teachers with each other and using technology to help students understand more.  

Jeff and I haven't given up on that.  We are in schools, helping teachers 4+ days out of the week (we rarely get a day in the office).  We offer face-to-face training, guidance, and mentoring to our 12 school systems we serve.  Somewhere along the way, we find time to post every day on SEGA Tech something that will benefit educators.  We don't do it for profit - we work as a contracted agency for the DOE, but we have passion for helping students and teachers every day.  My only real professional goal is to reform education - to fix this terrible funk that our kids are learning in.

We believe in the DEN.  But we also know that the methods Discovery used to cut "redundant" staff were wrong.  There were many avenues they could have taken, especially considering that Discovery Education division's revenue has jumped 350 percent since 2004.  

Read the Washington Post article: &lt;a&gt;

See, Discovery cut 84 positions and has acquired 7 other companies to employ 200 more.  So they are growing, and profits are UP.  This is part of what left a bad taste in our mouths.  Discovery didn't have to let go of folks without any warning.  The FM's were told during a meeting on a Thursday and were locked out of their email by the time they had walked back to their offices.  They weren't even allowed to contact us or save contact info.

We aren't angry anymore - It's been over a week, and we are thinking clearly.  We wish everyone in the DEN well, but we also think that Discovery needs to be aware that their actions were wrong.  They should be held accountable.  We also have a hard time drinking their Kool-Aid after they gave our friends a black eye. Besides, how do we know that next year they won't do the same thing? I know that I can't sell their Cosmeo anymore with a clear conscience.

Jeff and I decided that we had many opportunities to help teachers and students in many ways, and that maybe we should pull back from corporate, profit-driven organizations.  We received wonderful news just recently, from Patrice Weaver, Education Services Manager for Georgia Public Broadcasting.  GPB wants to create a similar network for Georgia educators under the leadership of our old FM, Katherine Aiken.  GPB is a non-profit entity that has given everything to educators time and again.  We posted her email to us on SEGA Tech. Just scroll down to the post for Monday, Dec 12th.

We wish everyone the best, and we will continue to help DEN members and the remaining staff.  Just email us!  We have absolutely NO hard feelings towards the DEN or it's remaining heroes.  We just felt that we couldn't play with Corporate Discovery anymore.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Daniel, from SEGA Tech (Dan &amp; Jeff).  We are the authors of the Broken Bulb video and Discover This wiki.  I think maybe I should say a few things, maybe to clarify our stance on this.</p>
<p>First, I want to say that the DEN was the best organization I have ever belonged to.  It still is, probably.  I wish it well.  I hope that everyone in the DEN continues to carry out the idea that it was based on: networking teachers with each other and using technology to help students understand more.  </p>
<p>Jeff and I haven&#8217;t given up on that.  We are in schools, helping teachers 4+ days out of the week (we rarely get a day in the office).  We offer face-to-face training, guidance, and mentoring to our 12 school systems we serve.  Somewhere along the way, we find time to post every day on SEGA Tech something that will benefit educators.  We don&#8217;t do it for profit - we work as a contracted agency for the DOE, but we have passion for helping students and teachers every day.  My only real professional goal is to reform education - to fix this terrible funk that our kids are learning in.</p>
<p>We believe in the DEN.  But we also know that the methods Discovery used to cut &#8220;redundant&#8221; staff were wrong.  There were many avenues they could have taken, especially considering that Discovery Education division&#8217;s revenue has jumped 350 percent since 2004.  </p>
<p>Read the Washington Post article: <a></p>
<p>See, Discovery cut 84 positions and has acquired 7 other companies to employ 200 more.  So they are growing, and profits are UP.  This is part of what left a bad taste in our mouths.  Discovery didn&#8217;t have to let go of folks without any warning.  The FM&#8217;s were told during a meeting on a Thursday and were locked out of their email by the time they had walked back to their offices.  They weren&#8217;t even allowed to contact us or save contact info.</p>
<p>We aren&#8217;t angry anymore - It&#8217;s been over a week, and we are thinking clearly.  We wish everyone in the DEN well, but we also think that Discovery needs to be aware that their actions were wrong.  They should be held accountable.  We also have a hard time drinking their Kool-Aid after they gave our friends a black eye. Besides, how do we know that next year they won&#8217;t do the same thing? I know that I can&#8217;t sell their Cosmeo anymore with a clear conscience.</p>
<p>Jeff and I decided that we had many opportunities to help teachers and students in many ways, and that maybe we should pull back from corporate, profit-driven organizations.  We received wonderful news just recently, from Patrice Weaver, Education Services Manager for Georgia Public Broadcasting.  GPB wants to create a similar network for Georgia educators under the leadership of our old FM, Katherine Aiken.  GPB is a non-profit entity that has given everything to educators time and again.  We posted her email to us on SEGA Tech. Just scroll down to the post for Monday, Dec 12th.</p>
<p>We wish everyone the best, and we will continue to help DEN members and the remaining staff.  Just email us!  We have absolutely NO hard feelings towards the DEN or it&#8217;s remaining heroes.  We just felt that we couldn&#8217;t play with Corporate Discovery anymore.</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Pederson</title>
		<link>http://www.teach42.com/2006/12/15/reflecting/#comment-54801</link>
		<dc:creator>John Pederson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 02:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  <img src='http://www.teach42.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I can't find another means of contacting Jeff, I thought I'd make some public comments here. While I am not surprised that Discovery decided to abruptly end the Field Manager component of the DEN, I am shocked at what lengths some of the former managers are going to in order to sure their displeasure.

First and foremost, the DEN is a COMMERCIAL product; despite any number of good intentions, wishes to spread the word of educational technology, any member of the DEN or teacher aware of the DEN should have realized that the community was formed as a commercial entity. Why would a company as large as Discovery, undertake such a large project without some type of financial reward in the future? Sure, there are lots of people out there evangelizing and spreading the word about educational technology like Will Richardson and David Warlick that present a very altruistic vision of spreading ed tech, but they're still trying to make a living doing it. All of the major prognosticators of the Edublogosphere are either working in an institution, earning money, spreading the word, or being paid to travel the country and speak at major conventions in order to spread the word.

Why should Discovery be any different? In fact, as a large corporation, I would expect that the bottom line was always a high priority. So why is it that there's so much shock about what has happened? Did these former managers believe so much in the DEN's philosophy that they were truly trying to help teachers? If so, then why shutdown the Discover This wiki and other resources? You've put time, energy, blood, sweat, and tears into creating some amazing materials for teachers. Don't let the raw emotions, that are admitedly justifiable, make you trash all of the hard work you've done. Prove to Discovery, and more importantly the teachers you love, that you were in it for the adventure, the discvoery, the learning, and not just the prestige, the title, or the money (if field managers were compensated, which I am not privy to).

I could type on and on, but not knowing the specifics of why the FMs were shutdown, and not knowing the personal history of the Field Managers I believe I've ranted on long enough.

A shame that so many bright educators are looking at this as a defeat, and not a way to take the DEN model and improve upon it in a non-commercial way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I can&#8217;t find another means of contacting Jeff, I thought I&#8217;d make some public comments here. While I am not surprised that Discovery decided to abruptly end the Field Manager component of the DEN, I am shocked at what lengths some of the former managers are going to in order to sure their displeasure.</p>
<p>First and foremost, the DEN is a COMMERCIAL product; despite any number of good intentions, wishes to spread the word of educational technology, any member of the DEN or teacher aware of the DEN should have realized that the community was formed as a commercial entity. Why would a company as large as Discovery, undertake such a large project without some type of financial reward in the future? Sure, there are lots of people out there evangelizing and spreading the word about educational technology like Will Richardson and David Warlick that present a very altruistic vision of spreading ed tech, but they&#8217;re still trying to make a living doing it. All of the major prognosticators of the Edublogosphere are either working in an institution, earning money, spreading the word, or being paid to travel the country and speak at major conventions in order to spread the word.</p>
<p>Why should Discovery be any different? In fact, as a large corporation, I would expect that the bottom line was always a high priority. So why is it that there&#8217;s so much shock about what has happened? Did these former managers believe so much in the DEN&#8217;s philosophy that they were truly trying to help teachers? If so, then why shutdown the Discover This wiki and other resources? You&#8217;ve put time, energy, blood, sweat, and tears into creating some amazing materials for teachers. Don&#8217;t let the raw emotions, that are admitedly justifiable, make you trash all of the hard work you&#8217;ve done. Prove to Discovery, and more importantly the teachers you love, that you were in it for the adventure, the discvoery, the learning, and not just the prestige, the title, or the money (if field managers were compensated, which I am not privy to).</p>
<p>I could type on and on, but not knowing the specifics of why the FMs were shutdown, and not knowing the personal history of the Field Managers I believe I&#8217;ve ranted on long enough.</p>
<p>A shame that so many bright educators are looking at this as a defeat, and not a way to take the DEN model and improve upon it in a non-commercial way.</p>
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